Matthew Solomon Up for Parole Again
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| Anyone care to discuss this apart from the typical "let him rot in there" reaction? I'm trying to empathise what it would accept for someone, in this case convicted of murder and sentenced to xviii years to life, to actually make parole. Is there really whatever betoken to a minimum sentence if the courtroom of public opinion is going to influence the parole board fourth dimension after time to continue everyone who ever petitions them within? I don't excuse what Matthew Solomon did. I don't recall he premeditated it, but that doesn't change that he yet killed his married woman, whether intentional or not, while committing the felony of abusing her. Under the law that'southward murder. There'southward also no alibi for his failure to own up to what happened and instead concoct some elaborate nonsense that never happened to encompass his rear terminate, even hiding her trunk. Yet, and for whatever reason, the estimate was lenient with the sentence, then I guess on some level my question is, what did the estimate see that everyone else doesn't? Apart from Solomon, and just because anyone else who might be in the aforementioned state of affairs, what would an inmate have to do to win himself or herself parole? There'due south certainly no manner to get back in time and make things right so the whole "life for a life" concept sounds just, only at the aforementioned fourth dimension, NY rarely gives out mandatory life sentences, even for murder unless the victim was a cop, so who tin be paroled if non Solomon? We've seen Joel Steinberg released afterward serving 2/3rds of his sentence, and his crime was arguably worse than Solomon'southward, even though he wasn't convicted of murder (squeamish task by that jury). We've seen Jean Harris released after killing Dr. Tarnower. Nosotros've seen Charles Friedgood released considering he was terminally ill with cancer, but as far equally I know he'due south all the same walking around. He killed his married woman besides and that WAS premeditated. Then I guess another question would be "why Non Solomon?" |
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| I guess her family unit is very song in their opposition. I remember that case clear as mean solar day - I was babysitting for my sister over winter break and drove by the place he dumped her every morning. Absolutely frigid wintertime that year. |
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| Her mother worked in the nursing dwelling house where my uncle was so I recall this very well. Yous are right, Twingles, almost the weather. It was then dour and common cold & and then many people were out searching for her. No remorse is why he should not get parole. Do YOU want him living almost you ? __________________ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |
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| My sister said at the time "if he called police right away and said ...my wife and I had an statement and it went too far and she'southward unconscious, delight ship help" he'd accept been out in iii years. |
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| Okay.... a few things you lot don't sympathize about the NYS Criminal Justice/Penal Organization. First, the judge wasn't "lenient". 18-Life is inside the sentencing guidelines for murder. He probably gave him less than the standard 25 year sentence considering information technology wasn't a planned murder; information technology happened when he was fighting with her and was more than of an accident. His biggest mistake was trying to dispose of the trunk. Had he not panicked and done that, he probably could have copped to manslaughter and gotten 5 to 15 years. 2d, since he has an indeterminate term of incarceration, he was eligible for parole afterward serving eighteen years. He didn't accept to "petition" for it; it's automatic. He was denied parole. The "Parole Board" usually "hits" people who are in for homicide with two years --- meaning they will meet the parole lath for consideration afterwards serving another ii years. He may leave on his next parole board; he may not. It's all up to the board commissioners. They more than likely cite "nature of the crime" for their denial of parole. "Nature of the Offense" tin never, ever modify then, no, y'all can't go back in fourth dimension and change it. . However, the parole board can also consider an inmate's rehabilitation while in prison house ---- are they getting psychological counseling? Substance abuse counseling? Educational or vocational grooming? What are they doing while in prison? Are they getting disciplinary infractions? What are their plans for release? Housing? Family? Employment? They consider a lot of things. Joel Steinberg was released after serving 2/3 of his MAXIMUM sentence. He was sentenced to 8 i/3 to 25 years for manslaughter. By law, his "conditional release date" is 2/3 of the maximum sentence and they would accept to release him. The only thing that would accept stopped his release would have been if he was a troublesome inmate, getting disciplinary actions, etc etc etc (think Robert Chambers). Joel Steinberg had a clean prison tape so they had no pick just to release him after he served xvi ii/3 years. Jean Harris was awarded clemency simply near likely considering she was very sick and had a center attack while in prison. They didn't call back she was going to make it and she was awarded charity. I don't recall she deserved it ---- she "accidentally" shot Dr Tarnower how many times????? She claims she went there to shoot herself in front of him but she "accidentally" shot him numerous times. She should take served her time and went to the parole board like anyone else. Why non Solomon? Things are changing in NYS prisons. They've closed down several prisons completely and are releasing not-violent offenders on piece of work release programs or giving them early parole. Gov Cuomo is looking to keep the vehement offenders in prison for as long as possible. I don't call back Solomon is the only 1 not getting out on parole. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by nancy thereader Her mother worked in the nursing dwelling house where my uncle was and so I call back this very well. You are correct, Twingles, about the weather. It was so dour and cold & so many people were out searching for her. No remorse is why he should not get parole. Do Yous desire him living about yous ? Why do you lot believe he has no remorse? I don't get to choose which parolees live well-nigh me. That's the price of living in a middle class neighborhood where some parolees have center class immediate family unit. In that location are quite a few sex offenders in my area who didn't serve a whole lot of time, and I probably trust them less than a Matthew Solomon who'due south had 25 years to think well-nigh what he did. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by twingles My sister said at the fourth dimension "if he called police right away and said ...my wife and I had an argument and information technology went too far and she'south unconscious, delight send aid" he'd have been out in three years. You brand an interesting indicate by saying that. He probably would have been able to plea bargain at the very least if he endemic up right away. I don't know almost iii years. He might have gotten more than of a Steinberg deal. |
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| I forgot about this guy. Seems similar to the case a few years ago where the husband (can't recollect his name) killed his wife, left her car on the side of the Seaford Oyster Bay, and and so went on Television receiver crying about his wife being missing. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Amisi Okay.... a few things you don't understand virtually the NYS Criminal Justice/Penal System. First, the judge wasn't "lenient". 18-Life is inside the sentencing guidelines for murder. He probably gave him less than the standard 25 year sentence considering it wasn't a planned murder; information technology happened when he was fighting with her and was more than of an blow. His biggest mistake was trying to dispose of the body. Had he not panicked and done that, he probably could accept copped to manslaughter and gotten 5 to 15 years. I believe when you consider that the prosecution wanted 25 to life, and got the conviction for murder, an 18 to life sentence is lenient, relatively speaking. Quote: Originally Posted by Amisi 2d, since he has an indeterminate term of incarceration, he was eligible for parole later on serving 18 years. He didn't have to "petition" for it; information technology's automatic. He was denied parole. The "Parole Board" usually "hits" people who are in for homicide with two years --- significant they will see the parole lath for consideration subsequently serving another 2 years. He may go out on his next parole board; he may not. It'southward all up to the board commissioners. They more probable cite "nature of the crime" for their denial of parole. I don't believe I used the word "petition". Perhaps someone else in the thread? I realize they cite the nature of the crime in their denial of parole. I'k just not sure how that wasn't already addressed when the perp was sentenced. Quote: Originally Posted past Amisi "Nature of the Crime" tin never, e'er change and so, no, you can't go back in time and modify it. . However, the parole board tin can also consider an inmate's rehabilitation while in prison ---- are they getting psychological counseling? Substance abuse counseling? Educational or vocational training? What are they doing while in prison house? Are they getting disciplinary infractions? What are their plans for release? Housing? Family? Employment? They consider a lot of things. My contention is there are and then called "model prisoners" getting turned downwards for parole solely based on the nature of the criminal offence, so while these other things may be considered they don't seem to have an over riding impact even in their entirety. Quote: Originally Posted past Amisi Why not Solomon? Things are changing in NYS prisons. They've closed down several prisons completely and are releasing non-vehement offenders on work release programs or giving them early parole. Gov Cuomo is looking to go along the violent offenders in prison for as long every bit possible. I don't think Solomon is the only one not getting out on parole. That didn't start with Gov. Cuomo, and I would hope no governor has that kind of unilateral power over the parole lath. Sounds like a disharmonize of interests. Pataki really signed the constabulary catastrophe early parole for violent offenders, simply information technology'due south not considered an early parole once the inmate has served his minimum sentence. No, Solomon is not the only one, hence my question, who that's bedevilled of this can ever be paroled? |
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| Quote: Originally Posted past Trolling For Dollars I believe when you consider that the prosecution wanted 25 to life, and got the conviction for murder, an 18 to life sentence is lenient, relatively speaking. I don't believe I used the word "petition". Perhaps someone else in the thread? I realize they cite the nature of the crime in their denial of parole. I'm merely not sure how that wasn't already addressed when the perp was sentenced. My contention is there are so called "model prisoners" getting turned downwards for parole solely based on the nature of the law-breaking, so while these other things may be considered they don't seem to accept an over riding bear on fifty-fifty in their entirety. That didn't start with Gov. Cuomo, and I would hope no governor has that kind of unilateral ability over the parole lath. Sounds like a conflict of interests. Pataki really signed the law catastrophe early parole for violent offenders, just it'south not considered an early parole once the inmate has served his minimum sentence. No, Solomon is not the only i, hence my question, who that's convicted of this can always be paroled? What Mathew did was horrible. I don't call up he deserves to b paroled. |
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